My first thought that since there seemed to be several small rallies at the same time it seems that they were coordinated. No way would Hamas allow these rallies to go on. I ma surprised that some of those who are the "organizers" dont end up dead. If they dont then we know Hamas is behind the rallies. So why?
1. One of the things they chanted was "we want to eat." In other words bringing attention to the fact that Israel isn't letting in food anymore. trying to get the world to pressure Israel to let in food. (Hamas must be running low on supplies)
2. Hamas knows it can't last in Gaza and that the IDF is coming for them. With antiHamas rallies they can say to the arab world, we are following the precepts of the people of Gaza and leaving because they want us to leave. So we are noble and will continue the fight from somewhere else.
3. Also the rallies could be that the people know where the hostages are being kept. They know the IDF is coming,. They dont want to end up dead, and neither do the hamasniks holding the hostages, so Hamas lets them have this rally so when the IDF comes and there is a battle and the people die, then it is Israel who can get all the blame. Look you killed the people in Gaza who werent with Hamas. Bad Jews, bad Jews.
But I wonder just how many hamasniks were in that rally? (Does this make me cynical? I think this makes me aware of what hamas is capable of)
On the other hand, the fact that so many prohamasniks in the west did not mention these rallies, and did not pay attention to them says alot about who they are and what they want. It has never been about the Palestinians as people. They were simply a cudgel for Jew-hatred and Islamo-Nazism.
Seems like the biggest evidence these are not real anti-Hamas protests is that Hamas is allowing it. If they were real wouldn't they have been violently put down like any other political opposition? This seems to me to be theater for the ever-gullible western media to prop up the "innocent Gazans" fallacy.
I’m equally cynical. They are pulling the wool over our eyes; a means to regroup, change the narrative, and/or maintain control by dissembling being ousted?
When they come out with the location of the hostages then perhaps I might think it is legitimate. Query: by what percentage did Hamas get elected by the people
Interesting. My first reaction was "something not right about this". Your post nicely articulates and expands on the problematic issues with the protests.
One day Hamas shoots Gazans in the legs for running away, and now quietly submits to protests? Seriously!?
Must confess my cynicism is at least equal to yours. Thanks for your reporting.
This massive demonstration in unlike anything that happened before , Israeli intelligence should watch it closely , something they haven’t done for years , nothing to lose here but a lot to gain if this is a genuine protest against Hamas .
Staged or not by Hamas, Fatah or others, they're still blaming others - while ALL THEY HAVE TO DO TO STOP THE WAR IS TAKING IDF TO THE HOSTAGES or bring them to the IDF themselves.
As for wanting to live in peace with ISRAEL - it's as always absent in their narratives.
You - we are not being cynical. We're just facing reality proven by facts.
Bad Jews. Hah. I'm a bad Jew lover and I know Israel will prevail. For if not, this world and what's left of humanity is doomed.
All arguments against trusting these arabs are great, but I will add my 5 cents - remember that we are dealing with islam and islam has a doctrine of taqiyyah!
I'm way past cynical and have been edging into actually hateful. It's a daily struggle. I don't trust these anti-Hamas demonstrations at all, or anyone in Islam claiming to be pro-peace.
Indeed, but obviously it's not for no good reason. Last summer the mister and I spent a weekend at a resort town in BC. There were a ton of visible Muslims there. I saw a woman in hijab taking video with her cellphone and my first thought was "Is she planning a terrorist attack?"
My first thought that since there seemed to be several small rallies at the same time it seems that they were coordinated. No way would Hamas allow these rallies to go on. I ma surprised that some of those who are the "organizers" dont end up dead. If they dont then we know Hamas is behind the rallies. So why?
1. One of the things they chanted was "we want to eat." In other words bringing attention to the fact that Israel isn't letting in food anymore. trying to get the world to pressure Israel to let in food. (Hamas must be running low on supplies)
2. Hamas knows it can't last in Gaza and that the IDF is coming for them. With antiHamas rallies they can say to the arab world, we are following the precepts of the people of Gaza and leaving because they want us to leave. So we are noble and will continue the fight from somewhere else.
3. Also the rallies could be that the people know where the hostages are being kept. They know the IDF is coming,. They dont want to end up dead, and neither do the hamasniks holding the hostages, so Hamas lets them have this rally so when the IDF comes and there is a battle and the people die, then it is Israel who can get all the blame. Look you killed the people in Gaza who werent with Hamas. Bad Jews, bad Jews.
But I wonder just how many hamasniks were in that rally? (Does this make me cynical? I think this makes me aware of what hamas is capable of)
On the other hand, the fact that so many prohamasniks in the west did not mention these rallies, and did not pay attention to them says alot about who they are and what they want. It has never been about the Palestinians as people. They were simply a cudgel for Jew-hatred and Islamo-Nazism.
All very good points
Thanks
Seems like the biggest evidence these are not real anti-Hamas protests is that Hamas is allowing it. If they were real wouldn't they have been violently put down like any other political opposition? This seems to me to be theater for the ever-gullible western media to prop up the "innocent Gazans" fallacy.
I’m equally cynical. They are pulling the wool over our eyes; a means to regroup, change the narrative, and/or maintain control by dissembling being ousted?
Staged rent a riot mayhem. Remember Shiri’s Babies designated as prisoners…May IDF wipe the earth of these murderers quickly.
I pray for peace.
Trust, but verify.
I wouldn’t risk anyone’s life on the chance that the Palestinians have good intentions.
How wonderful would it be if they returned the hostages in a bid for peace?
Even if these protests are the real deal, they were brought on by Israel’s recent offensive.
When they come out with the location of the hostages then perhaps I might think it is legitimate. Query: by what percentage did Hamas get elected by the people
of Gaza to lead there?
Most of Gaza’s population weren’t alive when elections were last held in Gaza.
Interesting. My first reaction was "something not right about this". Your post nicely articulates and expands on the problematic issues with the protests.
One day Hamas shoots Gazans in the legs for running away, and now quietly submits to protests? Seriously!?
Must confess my cynicism is at least equal to yours. Thanks for your reporting.
This massive demonstration in unlike anything that happened before , Israeli intelligence should watch it closely , something they haven’t done for years , nothing to lose here but a lot to gain if this is a genuine protest against Hamas .
Rejection of Hamas - if that is what is occurring - is heartening, but does not mean rejection of the jihad to destroy Israel.
Good points Sheri, EKB, Rivka, Rebekah.
Staged or not by Hamas, Fatah or others, they're still blaming others - while ALL THEY HAVE TO DO TO STOP THE WAR IS TAKING IDF TO THE HOSTAGES or bring them to the IDF themselves.
As for wanting to live in peace with ISRAEL - it's as always absent in their narratives.
You - we are not being cynical. We're just facing reality proven by facts.
Bad Jews. Hah. I'm a bad Jew lover and I know Israel will prevail. For if not, this world and what's left of humanity is doomed.
Hi everyone,
All arguments against trusting these arabs are great, but I will add my 5 cents - remember that we are dealing with islam and islam has a doctrine of taqiyyah!
I'm way past cynical and have been edging into actually hateful. It's a daily struggle. I don't trust these anti-Hamas demonstrations at all, or anyone in Islam claiming to be pro-peace.
It’s a sad state to reach, isn’t it!
Indeed, but obviously it's not for no good reason. Last summer the mister and I spent a weekend at a resort town in BC. There were a ton of visible Muslims there. I saw a woman in hijab taking video with her cellphone and my first thought was "Is she planning a terrorist attack?"
Oy
Or… is there any possibility Hamas has lost the power to quell the rebellion ???