Have you considered the San Remo Resolutions and Article 80 of the UN Charter in my answer. The San Remo Resolutions were a series of resolutions adopted by the Allied Powers in 1920 that called for the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. Article 80 of the UN Charter was included to safeguard the rights of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel in the event that the Mandate for Palestine was not renewed.
The San Remo Resolutions and Article 80 of the UN Charter are both relevant to the question of the legal right of Israel to the Land of Israel. The San Remo Resolutions provide some evidence of the international community's recognition of the Jewish people's right to the land. Article 80 of the UN Charter also safeguards the rights of the Jewish people to the land, even if the Mandate for Palestine is not renewed.
However, it is important to note that the San Remo Resolutions and Article 80 of the UN Charter are not the only factors to consider in this debate. There are also other factors, such as historical claims, religious texts, and international law, that need to be considered.
Ultimately, the question of whether the Jewish people have international legal rights to the Land of Israel is a complex one. There is no easy answer, and the debate is likely to continue for many years to come.
“There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.” Palestine was never “perceived as a distinct entity deserving national self-determination but as an integral part of a regional Arab order.
The Arab claim to Palestine is a hoax. The hoax and the Arab’s sinister appropriation of the name “Palestinians” are thoroughly discussed in the monumental work of Howard Grief, The Legal Foundations and Borders of Israel under International Law (Jerusalem; Mazo Publishers, 2008), Section Four. Chs. 16-18.
The Arab hoax is intended to negate the Jewish People’s claim to their ancestral homeland. The hoax is typical of the Arab myth-making culture, a polite way of referring to the Arab’s tendency to prevarication. Middle East expert Professor Y. Harkabi says in Arab Attitudes to Israel (Keter Publishers, 1972): “The use of falsehood” and “distortions of the truth” are typical of Arab political life.” Political scientists, sociologists and historians, he adds, “seem to feel reluctant to mention this aspect of their analysis of the Arab world” (p. 337).
"There are also other factors, such as historical claims, religious texts, and international law, that need to be considered.
Ultimately, the question of whether the Jewish people have international legal rights to the Land of Israel is a complex one. "
If you complicate the question with extraneous considerations such as history and religion, then the issue will be confused and complicated. It needn't be. History and religion do not confer sovereignty. Only international law does. It's still not clear cut, but it need not be complex. See the five articles on Israel's sovereignty, which I linked in my comment above.
It's not complicated at all. It's not only history and religion, it's contemporary international laws that most Western nations and the UN tend to ignore exactly the same laws that they are signed to. The League of Nations ratified by 51 states and the UN Charter, particularly Aricle 80.
"It is true that sovereignty should have been applied at the end of the Six Day War when Israel returned to its heartland."
'Sovereignty' isn't applied. It is asserted. Israel has had sovereignty since at least 1994 when Jordan relinquished any claim to Judea and Samaria, and probably earlier. For whatever reasons, Israel has not asserted its sovereignty. Better late than never.
Yep. Israel should have never given back the Sinai in exchange for “peace”.
Israel should say “basta” (enough) declare sovereignty and do what it has to do to take back Gaza, Judea and Samaria. Not Jewish but support this 💯 percent.
If anyone should understand the agony of exile, it is the people of Israel.
A people scattered, hunted, displaced, carrying the memory of wandering in their bones.
Yet, ironically, in a tragic twist of history, that very memory has not been a wellspring of compassion but a weaponised rationale to dislocate another.
Today, under the banner of “sovereignty,” we are watching not the healing of history, but its betrayal.
The Sovereignty Movement dares to call for total Israeli control over Gaza and the West Bank, painting occupation as moral, and dispossession as strategic.
It reframes October 7 as a final justification for perpetual dominance, rather than as a reckoning of what endless oppression breeds.
They speak of Gaza as a future "hub for innovation and tourism."
But who builds tourism atop bones?
Who markets innovation in a land where children are starving, mothers cradle lifeless infants, and entire families are buried beneath rubble, while the Netanyahu’s son allegedly buys up British property under an alias, drowning in billions to insulate himself from the chaos he’s helped ignite?
Allow us to ask ourselves
who created and empowered Hamas?
Who allowed it to grow, quietly funding division to fracture Palestinian representation?
Netanyahu himself, through strategic neglect and cynical manipulation, played this double game, empowering the very extremism he now uses to justify ethnic cleansing.
The greatest lie ever sold to the world is that all Jews support this.
They do not.
Many Jewish voices, rabbis, activists, poets, and mothers are crying out alongside Palestinians, pleading for justice, for peace, for coexistence that does not rely on erasure.
To say “the struggle in Gaza and Judea & Samaria is one and the same” is to confess a desire not for peace, but for total control, sovereignty over another people group. The Bible Netanyahu accolades about in using for his political agenda shares… Leviticus 19:33–34 (ESV)
“When a sojourner sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong.
You shall treat the sojourner who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself.”
for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.” Leviticus 19:33–34
It is to suggest that displacement is the plan, that emigration is the solution, and that Palestinian presence is a threat. It’s Hamas that’s the concern, the IDF could have eradicated them as they did with Hezbollah in Lebanon, within months after October 7th.
If Jewish suffering taught the world anything, it is that a people cannot be crushed into peace.
However, here we are watching the oppressor claim the moral high ground while the oppressed are buried beneath it.
I’m a Lebanese Christian woman and extremely privy to this horrific situation.
"Under the banner of “sovereignty" exemplifies lack of understanding of the concept. Sovereignty is not a slogan. It is an attribute of statehood. The claim that Israel should assert its sovereignty means that it should have and exercise the rights of every other sovereign state.
Fascinating. I’m having some discomfort with there being no path to citizenship for Arabs who accept Israel’s sovereignty. But I could be convinced otherwise.
There are too many to grant citizenship without jeopardizing the Jewish majority. Some creative solutions have been suggested, such as non-voting citizenship, but that would be unlikely to gain popular support.
The Leftie mindset was the worst thing that could have happened to Israel. Nadia and her coalition have been correct. To this day every time I think about Moshe Dayan giving the Temple Mount away I get nauseus.
That's because there are some baddens within the Kenessit and who aren't exactly working for their own, like the judicial system, just their own agendas. A buracratic system that's much like the UK sadly. I would hope that would change and the two tire system gets ditched too.
Once the area ABC plan has been removed and everyone is exposed to state run secular education, do you think a change would occur in the Arab generations to allow them to assimilate productively into Israeli society?
It must come with ay condition: no Arab autonomy, no state, no political entity of any kind. Sovereignty now over all of the homeland Samaria, Judea, Gaza .... Even more of the homeland we can grab back too, if we go from the ancient maps of Israel, I'm sure more belongs to Israel. I have been waiting for this and in my view, well over due.
"the U.S. territories of Guam and Puerto Rico to the Dutch Caribbean islands and British Overseas Territories"
Those are Protectorates. They are in fact States where the citizens have full rights except an army. After declaring full Israeli sovereignty, we could recognize a Palestinian protectorate under Israel security umbrella. Arab citizens will have full civil rights, except an army. That will look closer to a Two States solution without giving any national territory, but only Palestinian citizenship and self rule to the Arabs.
This could be enough for the Saudis to enter the abrahamic Accords.
Have you considered the San Remo Resolutions and Article 80 of the UN Charter in my answer. The San Remo Resolutions were a series of resolutions adopted by the Allied Powers in 1920 that called for the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. Article 80 of the UN Charter was included to safeguard the rights of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel in the event that the Mandate for Palestine was not renewed.
The San Remo Resolutions and Article 80 of the UN Charter are both relevant to the question of the legal right of Israel to the Land of Israel. The San Remo Resolutions provide some evidence of the international community's recognition of the Jewish people's right to the land. Article 80 of the UN Charter also safeguards the rights of the Jewish people to the land, even if the Mandate for Palestine is not renewed.
However, it is important to note that the San Remo Resolutions and Article 80 of the UN Charter are not the only factors to consider in this debate. There are also other factors, such as historical claims, religious texts, and international law, that need to be considered.
Ultimately, the question of whether the Jewish people have international legal rights to the Land of Israel is a complex one. There is no easy answer, and the debate is likely to continue for many years to come.
“There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.” Palestine was never “perceived as a distinct entity deserving national self-determination but as an integral part of a regional Arab order.
The Arab claim to Palestine is a hoax. The hoax and the Arab’s sinister appropriation of the name “Palestinians” are thoroughly discussed in the monumental work of Howard Grief, The Legal Foundations and Borders of Israel under International Law (Jerusalem; Mazo Publishers, 2008), Section Four. Chs. 16-18.
The Arab hoax is intended to negate the Jewish People’s claim to their ancestral homeland. The hoax is typical of the Arab myth-making culture, a polite way of referring to the Arab’s tendency to prevarication. Middle East expert Professor Y. Harkabi says in Arab Attitudes to Israel (Keter Publishers, 1972): “The use of falsehood” and “distortions of the truth” are typical of Arab political life.” Political scientists, sociologists and historians, he adds, “seem to feel reluctant to mention this aspect of their analysis of the Arab world” (p. 337).
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/19031
"There are also other factors, such as historical claims, religious texts, and international law, that need to be considered.
Ultimately, the question of whether the Jewish people have international legal rights to the Land of Israel is a complex one. "
If you complicate the question with extraneous considerations such as history and religion, then the issue will be confused and complicated. It needn't be. History and religion do not confer sovereignty. Only international law does. It's still not clear cut, but it need not be complex. See the five articles on Israel's sovereignty, which I linked in my comment above.
It's not complicated at all. It's not only history and religion, it's contemporary international laws that most Western nations and the UN tend to ignore exactly the same laws that they are signed to. The League of Nations ratified by 51 states and the UN Charter, particularly Aricle 80.
Good. Sovereignty is the first principle.
I have written five articles on Israel's sovereignty. Check them out here:
https://bartonlaw.substack.com/archive?sort=new
I’ll read them.
Thanks :)
"It is true that sovereignty should have been applied at the end of the Six Day War when Israel returned to its heartland."
'Sovereignty' isn't applied. It is asserted. Israel has had sovereignty since at least 1994 when Jordan relinquished any claim to Judea and Samaria, and probably earlier. For whatever reasons, Israel has not asserted its sovereignty. Better late than never.
Yep. Israel should have never given back the Sinai in exchange for “peace”.
Israel should say “basta” (enough) declare sovereignty and do what it has to do to take back Gaza, Judea and Samaria. Not Jewish but support this 💯 percent.
If anyone should understand the agony of exile, it is the people of Israel.
A people scattered, hunted, displaced, carrying the memory of wandering in their bones.
Yet, ironically, in a tragic twist of history, that very memory has not been a wellspring of compassion but a weaponised rationale to dislocate another.
Today, under the banner of “sovereignty,” we are watching not the healing of history, but its betrayal.
The Sovereignty Movement dares to call for total Israeli control over Gaza and the West Bank, painting occupation as moral, and dispossession as strategic.
It reframes October 7 as a final justification for perpetual dominance, rather than as a reckoning of what endless oppression breeds.
They speak of Gaza as a future "hub for innovation and tourism."
But who builds tourism atop bones?
Who markets innovation in a land where children are starving, mothers cradle lifeless infants, and entire families are buried beneath rubble, while the Netanyahu’s son allegedly buys up British property under an alias, drowning in billions to insulate himself from the chaos he’s helped ignite?
Allow us to ask ourselves
who created and empowered Hamas?
Who allowed it to grow, quietly funding division to fracture Palestinian representation?
Netanyahu himself, through strategic neglect and cynical manipulation, played this double game, empowering the very extremism he now uses to justify ethnic cleansing.
The greatest lie ever sold to the world is that all Jews support this.
They do not.
Many Jewish voices, rabbis, activists, poets, and mothers are crying out alongside Palestinians, pleading for justice, for peace, for coexistence that does not rely on erasure.
To say “the struggle in Gaza and Judea & Samaria is one and the same” is to confess a desire not for peace, but for total control, sovereignty over another people group. The Bible Netanyahu accolades about in using for his political agenda shares… Leviticus 19:33–34 (ESV)
“When a sojourner sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong.
You shall treat the sojourner who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself.”
for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.” Leviticus 19:33–34
It is to suggest that displacement is the plan, that emigration is the solution, and that Palestinian presence is a threat. It’s Hamas that’s the concern, the IDF could have eradicated them as they did with Hezbollah in Lebanon, within months after October 7th.
If Jewish suffering taught the world anything, it is that a people cannot be crushed into peace.
However, here we are watching the oppressor claim the moral high ground while the oppressed are buried beneath it.
I’m a Lebanese Christian woman and extremely privy to this horrific situation.
𝑺𝒂𝒍𝒘𝒂 𝑺𝒂𝒎𝒓𝒂
𝘈𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘳, 𝘗𝘰𝘦𝘵, 𝘞𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘳
𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘨𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘙𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘊𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘭 𝘊𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘤
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"Under the banner of “sovereignty" exemplifies lack of understanding of the concept. Sovereignty is not a slogan. It is an attribute of statehood. The claim that Israel should assert its sovereignty means that it should have and exercise the rights of every other sovereign state.
We’ve tried everything else. Let’s try growing a pair, as it were.
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Fascinating. I’m having some discomfort with there being no path to citizenship for Arabs who accept Israel’s sovereignty. But I could be convinced otherwise.
All Arabs living in Israel have Israeli citizenship.
I know that. I’m talking about if Israel extends sovereignty in Judea and Samaria.
Israel should have effected that in 1967. Nowadays, I guess that the only option is Area C.
Yes. We should have done that in 67. But no, we cannot be satisfied today with area c because we cannot have a Palestinian state.
No "Palestinian" State in any circumstances.
There are too many to grant citizenship without jeopardizing the Jewish majority. Some creative solutions have been suggested, such as non-voting citizenship, but that would be unlikely to gain popular support.
Then, as in this article, they would have to make sure that countries that now allow for non-citizen residence status be forced to change that.
Matar is right on every point. Sovereignty is long overdue.
Yet the Arabs already have their own land if they don't wish to be affiliated into Israel itself.
The Leftie mindset was the worst thing that could have happened to Israel. Nadia and her coalition have been correct. To this day every time I think about Moshe Dayan giving the Temple Mount away I get nauseus.
I could not agree more !!
I certainly concur with sovereignty. We all know whose the land is. What a shame the Knesset is locked up over politics. Any prospects for a shift?
That's because there are some baddens within the Kenessit and who aren't exactly working for their own, like the judicial system, just their own agendas. A buracratic system that's much like the UK sadly. I would hope that would change and the two tire system gets ditched too.
Once the area ABC plan has been removed and everyone is exposed to state run secular education, do you think a change would occur in the Arab generations to allow them to assimilate productively into Israeli society?
Not since 80% of them are happy with what Hamas did to us on Oct 7th and hopes to be able to do it too.
https://open.substack.com/pub/majortruthache/p/when-the-world-fills-with-hamas?r=1gcprx&utm_medium=ios
It must come with ay condition: no Arab autonomy, no state, no political entity of any kind. Sovereignty now over all of the homeland Samaria, Judea, Gaza .... Even more of the homeland we can grab back too, if we go from the ancient maps of Israel, I'm sure more belongs to Israel. I have been waiting for this and in my view, well over due.
"the U.S. territories of Guam and Puerto Rico to the Dutch Caribbean islands and British Overseas Territories"
Those are Protectorates. They are in fact States where the citizens have full rights except an army. After declaring full Israeli sovereignty, we could recognize a Palestinian protectorate under Israel security umbrella. Arab citizens will have full civil rights, except an army. That will look closer to a Two States solution without giving any national territory, but only Palestinian citizenship and self rule to the Arabs.
This could be enough for the Saudis to enter the abrahamic Accords.
Full civil rights minus the right to vote in national elections.
Minus the right to vote in the Knesset. So no more demographic threat.
But they can vote in their parliament, or Emirates' parliaments, as long are they are kept under protectorate.
Why not? Israel needs only full security control between the river and the sea, guaranteed by sovereignty. It doesn't need direct administration.
Yes. Exactly. The exact formulation can be worked out.
I spoke about that with another once and she said that the dealt with this kind of federal kind of arrangements.
IMHO this kind of formulation should be used as PR for the Left and the international opinion
Are you up to talking with me about it? PM me if so.