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Ari Kirsch's avatar

I don’t care how theatrical or performative it is, Two Tier Kier, Harris, Vichy Macron and Sanchez are fomenting Jew Hatred all over Western Europe and there is no excuse. Jews are being threatened, assaulted and persecuted. I will not spend another dime visiting their countries.. I hope their tourism atrophies… meanwhile, off to the Caribbean again and hopefully a trip to Uruguay and Argentina next year.

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The Holy Land's avatar

US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee responded to French President Emmanuel Macron's declaration that he will recognize a Palestinian state, suggesting that France create such a state itself.

"Macron's unilateral 'declaration' of a 'Palestinian' state didn't say WHERE it would be," Huckabee wrote in a post on X. "I can now exclusively disclose that France will offer the French Riviera & the new nation will be called 'Franc-en-Stine.'"

This is not the first time Huckabee has made such a suggestion.

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Sheri Oz's avatar

Well, I second that!

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Nigel Humphrey's avatar

You are so wrong there Sheri! Israel has a choice, a two state solution and peace, or the second the support from America ends, you're stuffed, and it's Israel and it's behaviour as a nation which is the problem. It's got nothing to do with being Jewish, that's such crap!

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Sheri Oz's avatar

Nigel, I appreciate disagreement, but this comment does not engage with the subject discussed in the article. I’m critiquing how European leaders handle Palestinian statehood diplomacy, not the two-state solution itself, nor any religious framing. If you’d like to discuss the actual content, I’m open to that.

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Liora Jacob's avatar

Interesting that you conveniently omitted all the times the Arabs of Palestine rejected offers for their own state next to Israel.

Shall we count the ways?

1937

1947

1967

1990s

2000

2008

2020

Here’s a crazy idea…. Perhaps that’s not what they really want.

Strategic narcissism at its finest.

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Liora Jacob's avatar

Einat Wilf:

“His Majesty’s Government have thus been faced with an irreconcilable conflict of principles … For the Jews the essential point of principle is the creation of a sovereign Jewish State. For the Arabs, the essential point of principle is to resist to the last the establishment of Jewish sovereignty in any part of Palestine”

Quote by British Foreign Minister Ernest Bevin in February 1947 in a speech to the British Parliament explaining why Britain can no longer carry out the mandate with which it was entrusted by the League of Nations and thus sending it back to the United Nation.

Note the date - February 1947: there is no Israel, no refugees, no occupation, no settlements, no blockade - none of the ‘understandable causes’ for Palestinian violence that even the UN Secretary General has fallen for.

And yet, already in February 1947 it is crystal clear why the conflict is already “irreconcilable”: as a matter of top priority, “the essential point of principle”, the Jews want a state whereas as a matter of top priority the Arabs of the land (later known as Palestinians) seek “to resist to the last the establishment of Jewish sovereignty *in any part* of Palestine”.

That’s the conflict. The Jews want a state in even a part of the land. The Palestinians want the Jews not to have a state in any part of the land. That’s “Free Palestine”. That’s “From the River to the Sea”.

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Al Mustafa's avatar

Being disingenuous on Palestine is one problem but encouraging Hamas by undermining Israel is mindless

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Liora Jacob's avatar

Sheri, in your personal opinion do you think Israel should push back by annexing specific areas of Area C whilst maintaining special conditions for clan-led enclaves ie Hevron? Or do you think this measure would be too damaging for the fragile Abraham Accords?

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Lioudmila Levina's avatar

As Sheri did not yet give her opinion I will give mine.

All land from the river to the sea belongs to Israel and gaza included. It is our land. Giving our land to arabs just undermined our right and legacy. In 2022-2023 the british already broke their mandate and gave at least 75% of our land to arabs. So it is their fault and they must be responsible for all this mess they created. I'd add there frenchs as well. If arabs' countries cannot cope with this it is their problem but some of them recently shows the signs of a common sense.

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Liora Jacob's avatar

The problem remains that millions of people currently live there, to whom offering voting rights would be an existential threat for us.

We can wish Israel had acted differently after the victory in the Six Day War, but they didn’t. So now we have to deal with the consequences.

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Lioudmila Levina's avatar

The statistic that shows millions people in gaza, in the areas under Palestinian authority is fake. In gaza there are from 700000 to 1.4 millions, in PA maybe no more than 2 million. All figures are greatly exaggerated by arabs as money they receive depends on the numbers. Considering that 2 famous and very well off American models Hadid are “palestinian refugees” and are counted as such on the unrwa papers what can be said more? Gazans should be moved to Libya, arabs from Judea, Samaria, East Jerusalem to Jordan. In these two countries there are plenty of lands, the same islam, the same culture and no Jews. There are so much precedents of deportations after the different wars that one more does not make any difference.

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Chrissy Knott's avatar

I agree with you but the world will scream "ethnic cleansing" and Israel will back down and things will continue as they are till something even more catastrophic happens to Israelis

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Susan Gerichter's avatar

Well done, Sheri. Excellent analysis. Although you didn't enter the distraction of the comments which followed your article, I have found them fascinating. I love the respectful dialogue.

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Sheri Oz's avatar

I also enjoyed reading the dialogue as a lurker below my own article.

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Ciska Schenk's avatar

I also admire and respect you Sheri, for keeping things clear in comments, by reminding readers to keep focussed on the subject. While staying open for further discussion 🙏🏽.

Observing way too many people stuck in opinions and emotional reactions, adding more division, which is successfully targeted & promoted by the Qatarabi propaganda machine... It's sad. Unbearable really.

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Sheri Oz's avatar

I would like to keep this article focused on its subject, which is that Europe loudly cries out for a Palestinian state that they do not want. What I think is irrelevant in this regard. There are more articles pending in this series.

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Up From The Slime's avatar

Perhaps the best guarantee of Israel's security does lie in international recognition of a Palestinian state with the proviso that Hamas cannot be part of its governance and must disarm. Upon that official recognition, Israel can take enforcement action as a UN member to disarm Hamas and to help the new State of Palestine write a constitution that excludes all Islamist terror movements and explicitly recognizes equal rights for non-Muslims residing in Palestine. It would be hypocritical for European nations that set those conditions to object to Israel's efforts to make the conditions reality.

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Nigel Humphrey's avatar

Liiora, you're not well informed. Lets just tak ethe first one, 1937,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Commission

Then maybe leap forward to 2009, because we could soend a long time on this,

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16hwuGRWso/

All this history is however of no great use. It's like childern in the playground shouting 'you started it'. The question I've asked Sheri before is how do you end it and achieve piece? The war didn't start on October 7th and Israel could kill every Palestinian in Gaza and the West Bank but that won't end the war.

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Lioudmila Levina's avatar

If you consider wiki as a reliable source in history matters especially related to Israel and the Jews it's saying me something.

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Lioudmila Levina's avatar

Follow the money! Who is winning prolonging this circus with so called "palestinian state" and who is losing!

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Nigel Humphrey's avatar

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK3KV2HR-53/?igsh=MXBnYjBxazl4emlwdg==

Why do you do dislike facts? Does it not concern you that you've confirmed what Youssef is saying and this is what very many people think of the Israeli government?

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Lucie Ramsey's avatar

No matter the performative outcries for a Palestinian state, the Jew/Israel/Zionist hatred gets spread quickly.

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Dov's avatar

Good piece there Shari, As a Jew who lives in Finland, I have seen the removal of Israeli products such as kosher wine, especially for Passover, and also now citrus products. I also love how you described the talking out of one side of the mouth and then saying something else on the other side, at the same time. The Europeans have no idea of reality, only playing to radicals and idiots. Must admit that the Arab PR machine is quite good.

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Sheri Oz's avatar

The Arab PR machine is too good.

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