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I see a lot of problems in this experiment.

1) You started by taking for granted the main goal of this war is returning the hostages. But it can't be! The release of the hostages may be a goal of negotiations, of a rescue operation or international campaign. But the goal of the war is the victory, by definition. We may discuss and disagree what victory means. But ONLY getting back our hostages, even all of them, clearly is NOT a victory.

2) With my first point in view, I would reshape your table:

- the first line on the left should read "Israel looses the war"

- I don't like the meek framing of the three following lines (we may be sire as hell from our previous experience Hamas will start shooting rockets at us; our standing as a regional superpower will be ruined; darned "International community" will never let us resume the war) but I will let them be

- the last line is OK

I want to add several more lines to this side of the table. Three of them are the opposite to what I would have placed in the "benefits" on the right side of the table. But as we don't have "benefits", here goes:

- large part of underground terror infrastructure in Gaza remains intact, ready to be used by Hamas the moment we move out

- unknown but probably large amount of weaponry and munition, as well as the means to assemble even more, remains in the hands of terrorists

- about a half or more of hardened, trained terrorists remain at the stones throw distance from our villages; we are talking about continuing to live side by side with 15-20 thousands of terrorists, protected only by the fence that already proved ineffective

- the last is the cost that somehow is taken out of public narrative in all of such discussions: even with no final conditions known we are talking about releasing of THOUSANDS of convicted terrorists into Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem! Some in Haifa or Tel Aviv may be less concern about it than I am in Ma"ale Adumim. Yet it is strange blindness as only yesterday a terrorists from Jerusalem injured 4 people in the central region, one of them still between life and death.

3) Now for the right side of the table. The first line is obvious. The second is not clear. What does she (you?) mean by "more military mistakes" that is not covered by the following points? Solder causalities, "innocent palestinian" causalities, and hostages killed by mistake are all covered. It looks like she is trying to make the list on the right longer :)

- there are 3 (three!) separate lines referring to the suffering of Gaza citizens (humanitarian crises, infrastructures destroyed, more Gazans killed). Seeing as she didn't even mention thousands of terrorists let loose on the Jews in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and most probably on all citizens of Israel, I have some questions about this selective compassion...

- I didn't understand why you didn't cancel the line "more rockets on us" on the right with the line "may use ammunition against us if they don't abide by ceasefire" (here should be my derisive laugh - as if they ever did!)

- continued displacement on both sides. Errrr. Does she really thinks Jews will be free and willing to return to Gaza border villages knowing thousands of terrorists with a lot of arms intact are just over the border? As for the Gaza residents - I can't care less, but Molly obviously does. But she should realize there is nowhere to return for the large part of them, and it would take years to rebuilt anyway, so several more months wouldn't change much. On the other hand, if Hamas is really defeated and expelled, there may be more actors willing to invest in rebuilding of Gaza.

- the last line, about international anti-Semitism is a classic - for her, Jews are hated because of what they do, not because of what - who - they are.

4) Lastly I want to address your conclusion. You say you finally understood. Well, I didn't. When the right was horrified of what Rabin, Peres and than Sharon did, they were horrified of the very specific consequences of these actions. As history showed, their (our) opposition to these actions was based on understanding of reality rather than on irrational fears. But when it comes to the opposite, I am yet to hear coherent explanation of what, exactly, is the frightening the left so much that they are willing to burn down the country.

Oh, and I am sure you recognized my clumsy English and inability to express my thoughts shortly. I am Ira Zelickman from FB

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